1984 F-150 XLT 351w no acceleration power-backfires when floored

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  1. lazbiker

    An update: I did some tweaking with the automatic choke,..... Holy Crap there is the horsepower I've been missing!! Where exactly should the choke be set? It seems to actually run better with the power to the choke disconnected.
     
  2. FTZ HAIC Staff Member Oregon Chapter Founding Member

    I'm not familiar with the exact adjustment procedure on that year, but temperature wise it should be fully "closed" by 65-70 degrees, and fully open at the very most after 5-7 minutes running on a very code day. Basically enrichment should be completely gone by the time the engine/carb hits 150 degrees. An infrared scope is great if you want it perfect (they run about $15-$20 at Harbor Frieght). But for most purposes "good enough" is just making sure the bi-metal spring is fully expanded by the time it's at operating temp.
     
  3. OldjunkFords Oregon Chapter Founding Member

    2 words of advise on these carbs.......................manual choke.
     
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  4. FTZ HAIC Staff Member Oregon Chapter Founding Member

    That's one of the things I really like about my 67.
     
  5. OldjunkFords Oregon Chapter Founding Member

    Much easier and effective to not mess with the old unreliable choke system and just go manual.
    You will learn quickly just how little you actually NEED a choke.
     
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  6. lazbiker

    Ok now, a whole new problem.....

    After talking with CFIS (carbs and fuel injection systems) and learning that the TPS on the carb wasn't working nor the feedback unit, I had the carb cleaned via sound waves and reset back to factory specs. Except for leaking gaskets it is running great!!

    Due to constantly leaking gaskets I've replaced gaskets from the heads up. Valve cover, intake manifold, head. Now everything is back together....... AAAAND........ It won't start.!! Has fuel, has spark, timing is set....... Won't effing start!
     
  7. dustybumpers Article Contributor Founding Member

    Did you pull the distributer?
    could be 180* out.
    check #1 plug for top dead center, and start from there.
     
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  8. JWC 3 TOTM Winner Founding Member

    Yes. Start with that.
     
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  9. lazbiker

    I apologize for not being more clear. I've already put the engine at #1 cylinder 10 degrees before top dead center, distributor pointing at #1. I pulled the front two plugs from each side to check spark by grounding against the frame. Good spark (white color with a little blue). I looked into the carb and pressed the accel by hand, good fuel and fuel bowl is full. I have all the ingredients for a running engine, but it's not running.

    Yesterday I was reading about a vacuum operated switch that controls timing retard and advance, but my truck doesn't seem to have that switch.

    I'm at my wits end here. I bought this truck for $600 three months ago with the expectation of maybe two days work to tune up and then camping, the range, hunting, etc. now I have put well over $3k into it and it still won't run right.
     
  10. JWC 3 TOTM Winner Founding Member

    Double check your firing order..... Just a thought , seen it before.
     
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  11. lazbiker

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  12. OldjunkFords Oregon Chapter Founding Member

    Been here a dozen times...........you are 180* out on the exhaust instead of intake, you really need to take off the valve cover to see the intake valve opening to confirm it.
     
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  13. lazbiker

    I thought the same thing so I rotated the engine once and reset the distributor to #1..... Same result. I'm stumped. EEC maybe??
     
  14. dustybumpers Article Contributor Founding Member

    Pull #1 plug,put your thumb on the hole, and bump it over by hand.
    When it blows your thumb off the hole you are at TDC
    Look at the distributer. I bet it's NOT at #1
     
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  15. lazbiker

    Oldjunkfords was right. I was 180* off. Teaches me to not be so sure of myself all the time. Well now I can actually tell that's it's trying to run. It's hesitating. Now on the valve cover it says 10*. I assume that means BTDC. However, I read that it is supposed to be 14* BTDC. Which is correct? Also, if I were close enough in the timing wouldn't it actually start but run rough?? Who was the jerk who designed the placement of the timing mark on these old tricks? I have to get under the harmonic balancer and use a mirror in conjunction with the timing light to see the mark.
     
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